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Long Point and Prince Edward Bay

Prince Edward Bay


Long Point

Canadian Hydrographic Charts
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Prince Edward Bay

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Prince Edward Bay is to the east of Prince Edward County and provides some of the more interesting cruising to be found in eastern Ontario. Prince Edward County itself is a long established loyalist stronghold with considerable European influence. There endless activities ashore and you might check out the county's web site for shore side activities.

There are several anchorages providing protection from the prevailing winds here. However CAUTION should be exercised since South Bay is notorious for becoming extremely difficult should the wind swing to the NE. The most popular anchorages lie close to Waupoos Island or close to the east in Smith's Bay . You will find these covered within the Waupoos Island page here.

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We will continue this cruising section starting from Van Dousens Point which is the south west corner of P.E.C. and lies to the SW of Waupoos Island proper. If you approach from the passage to Kingston you will leave Waupoos Island to your west and see the shadow of the Long Point spit of P.E.C. to your south. If you arrive from the passage between Waupoos Island and Mainland or Smith's Bay there is little to mark your crossing into the deeper water of greater Prince Edward Bay except that the depth will drop to 40 feet. The shoreline on the county to the west is wooded with a few small cottages along the shore.

Rounding Van Dousen Point the fishermen have a pleasant surprise as the bay from here to Black Creek is well populated with Bass, Pike, Perch and in the deep water there are lake trout and salmon at depths varying from 35 to 50 feet. We have found many 10 inch perch here and big close to 3 foot pike also lurk in the shallower waters among the weeds. The water here is relatively deep holding in the teens all the way to the entrance to Black Creek where the land begins to rise from the low lying rocky beach to hills on either side of Black Creek which are perhaps a hundred feet high. As tempting as it might look be careful of the shallow area in the middle of the mouth of the entrance to the creek.

Mariners Museum

The south shore retains its wooded cloaked heights for some distance to the SW as the bay begins to shoal to Port Milford where there is an active Mariners Museum. The bay here is shallow and the surrounding land is green and low lying, making one wonder just what the lighthouse at the Mariners Park guides. The park itself is a worthwhile visit although I can not see how you would get there by any size of cruising vessel unless by a long dinghy trip.

Flatt Point

Most of this part of South Bay is far too shallow to allow anything but outboard powered craft. There are small boat facilities on the south shore on Flatt Point and if you follow the deep water which lies west of Flatt Point.

map Flatt Point

For those seeking an out of the way spot for a rest, shore based vacationers can enjoy ( 2 ) Smugglers Cover Camp ground which is quiet well maintained on Flatt Point, with a sandy beach and small fishing boats. Even in August we found the camp ground had plenty of available spaces providing a view of the water. The facility itself would be great for a family as there is little traffic, a good playground, and a small but adequate store on the property.

Johnstons Marina

On the point itself is(3) Johstons Marina,
(613) 476 3972
, which provides a total of perhaps 6 to 8 slips suitable for outdrive type mid twenty foot vessels behind a secure break wall. The marina itself should be secure in anything but the most violent of storms but too small for most sail boats. For larger vessels there is a pleasant anchorage once you tuck in behind the point itself and the Smugglers Cove Camp ground with 15 feet of water.

Flatt Point

For the cruiser the area to the east of Flatt Point ( 1 ) offers an excellent day stop in Half Moon Bay which is bordered on the land by the Little Bluff Conservation area. When approaching from the north the bluffs are visible from as far away as Waupoos Island. In the afternoon you will pick up the glint of a silver metal roof to the western edge of the bluffs proper.

Beach below and east of Little Bluffs

Little Bluffs stand over a hundred feet above Prince Edward Bay sheltering Half Moon Bay itself. A public rocky beach ( 3 ) extends from the foot of the bluffs in a crescent shape for almost a kilometer to the east, offering excellent swimming or a shore side picnic. Anchoring is weedy but a 35 lb. plough or fisherman will hold well amongst the weedy bottom.

There is little to distinguish the shoreline from the bluffs to Point Traverse. The shoreline is scrub pine and cottages above a low lying gravely beach with no protection. As you approach the eastern end of the point the cottages disappear where the bird sanctuary starts and the shoreline rises to low bluffs above the same gravely beach with scrubby pines inland. Point Traverse itself has perhaps fifty foot high bluffs overlooking the waters between Point Traverse and Timber Island.

Point Traverse, Long Point & Long Point Harbour

Area covered
Any soundings shown on any graphics on this page are in fathoms
Local Markers:
Red marker spar buoy located to the SW of Timber Island R KT 2
Red marker spar buoy located to the SW of Gull Rock R KL 2
Red marker spar buoy located to the NE of Harbour entrance R KL 4
Green marker spar buoy located east of Harbour entrance G KL 3
Hazaeds of Long Point and Point Traverse

One thing that Long Point has plenty of is hazards. Whatever you do, do not attempt to enter or round close off the point unless you have a chart, good navigation or knowledge of the area like the back of your hand! If approaching from the east between False Duck Island and Timber Island ( 3 ) you must pass close to ( 4 ) Gull rock, which is almost directly east of the harbour entrance. Give yourself plenty of room and round well east of the point. If you approach from the south or south west watch your chart as Traverse Shoal ( 5 ) lies slightly east and south of the harbour and Long Point. The entire shore from Long Point to Rocky Point on the south side is strewn with rocky shoals.

Anchored off Point Traverse

In prevailing winds and keeping an eye to the weather you can anchor just off Point Traverse on a rocky bottom. For those of you with wind generators you will find no shortage of wind here as it seems to be always blowing.

There has been a lot of misinformation printed regarding this landfall. There should be no doubt that the harbour itself is an interesting place to visit, marking an outpost from Ontario's past, as this harbour is for commercial fishing vessels. For the visiting boater don't believe what many guides have published.

There are no facilities and there is NO DOCKING for visiting vessels.

Longpoint Harbour Lighthouse

For the fisherman much of the bay fishing has been somewhat quiet in later August, yet as we approached the shallow water stretching from Point Traverse to Timber Island the fish finder was absolutely full of fish.

Approaching from the east the entrance to the harbour can bee seen from some distance out, well before sighting the markers. The entrance is from the east via a bay much like Main Duck. There is a white lighthouse to the south of the entrance where there is a cottage on the north shore past the eastern point of the bay.

On the other hand it is an interesting anchorage for those with a moderate draft of five feet or less, and there are many similarities to Main Duck Island and Schoolhouse Bay. However this fishing harbor is still active. You must take care to avoid Traverse Shoal and Gull Island which extends east from Prince Edward Point toward False Duck Island.

Long point entrance as seen from north shore

There is a red buoy ( R KL 4 ) several hundred feet from the NE point while the green marker ( G KL 3 ) is some distance out, almost off the light structure. The narrow entrance may be difficult to distinguish until you are within arms length of the outer bay itself.

Long point entrance looking eastwards

With the exception of a small white wooden shed on the south shore there is little to separate the gravely beach from the narrow entrance to the harbor proper.

Government Dock

The charts show a dead straight entrance but we found it to lie just south of due west, at a slight angle. Once inside you will see the government dock directly in front of you. It is a wooden structure rising perhaps 5 feet above lake level and approximately 20 feet wide. Between the Department of Fisheries and local residents do not expect to find any space to tie up here.

Inner Long Point harbour

Watching you depth sounder you can find good protection just past the government dock if your hook is adequate,e as the bay is very well sheltered and should be considered a harbour of refuge for any unlucky enough to become trapped out here by a sudden storm. The bay here becomes quite shallow and has enough weeds to defeat most Danforth anchors.

South shore fishermen in Longpoint harbour

There is no mooring on the south shore of Long Point Harbour as this is used by local fishermen and are private and visiting cruisers are not overly welcome. This is not a tourist destination but remains a working fishing harbour. There are no facilities here other than an outhouse north of the government dock.

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Tour of Black Creek

The following mini tour is under construction August 1, 2006
please excuse the images only as we prepare text.
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Black Creek is located on the north west corner of Great South Bay and separates the bluffs to the south and the futile isthmus of Van Dousens Point to the north. There are no significant obstructions along the south shore of Van Dousens Point to the entrance to Black creek. Depths within the creek and never more than 4' and boats drawing more than 3' should not attempt entry.

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CRITICAL Note there is a very shallow shoal with less than 2' of water directly in the middle of the entrance to the creek. When approaching the creek entrance your course will follow the shoreline of the bluffs to the south staying a seventy five to hundred yards offshore, watching the bottom carefully. The shoal in the middle of the entrance does shift and also contains some fair sized rocks that will damage propellers.

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As you slide past the entrance the bluffs loom high to your south. The channel at this stage is still to the south following the contour of the bluffs. Approximately 0.5 mi from the entrance you will find that the lead closest to the bluff peters out and you will have to make your way more midstream.

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The north shore of the entrance is marsh like with numerous cottages and small watercraft on low lying docks for a distance of a a little over a mile to the bridge with all the houses and cottageslocatedd on the north shore except one just below the bridge.

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Approaching the bridge there is a substantial dock and boathouse on the south shore while reeds begin to fill in the north side the closer you get to the bridge. when navigating the creek it is best to watch the weed line as the deep channel tends to run close to the inside of the turn weed edge.

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The bridge at Black Creek limits further access to boats with less than 8' of vertical clearance. A dock for the Black River Cheese Company is situated on the north shore directly by the bridge. They have a fine selection of cheese at factory direct pricing and a well stocked convince store that does a booming business in the summer with its ice cream sales. There is a small dock that usually has a fishing boat adjacent store where you can tie up for long enough to visit the store.

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As you proceed above the bridge the creek opens into a fairly large pool with houses skirting the south shore and the main channel winding gently along that side of the creek and can be picked up by watching the weed patterns.

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Perhaps 0.5 above the bridge the creek takes the firs of many twists and the channel turns sharply north crossing to the other side of the creek. As you round the bend into the second pond you will see an abandoned tug moored on the north shore.

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Above the tug the creek becomes far more marshy and the weeds begging to encroach on open water leaving a 100' wide channel with houses disappearing from the shore. It is possible to follow the creek all the way to Milford in a kayak but with a dinghy using a motor progress becomes impossible after several more miles due to the weeds. There is a lot of wildlife back here and the birds and muskrats have it to themselves.

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